Doom 3 - Resurrection of Evil | MQ Videos Page 1

[tossedsalad]

Yep, strafejumping is very important in Doom3. You dont see it in yiff's run because its a really old run, but believe me, you can cut down ALOT of time from your run. Strafejumping with the artifact berserk is insanely fast.

Its quite hard for me to describe strafejumping in detail, i can only perform it.
Heres a strafejumping tutorial video i found for Jedi Academy (Quake3 engine btw). Strafejumping there is the same as Doom3 and anything using Quake3 or Doom3 engine.
http://files.filefront.com/StrafeJumping101/;3617952;;/fileinfo.html
This may be hard to learn at first, but bear with it, it will become easy with practice.

Here is also a trick i discovered using the grabber
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIl_dFtLf14

Here is a trick in Erebus2 using the grabber
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoYoNqpeWe0  

1. Grab an object (with the grabber of course)
2. Place it opposite to the direction you want to go
3. Swing your mouse quickly to the opposite direction and jump (with run) at the same time. I realised that you can do this while just walking but there is a chance that you would fail or be boosted upwards, anyway, the stamina usage is neglible so its better to hold run.  




@ YIFF
Are you still alive?

[sunpal]

  I don't ignore "Strafejumping".

But, the skill is weak than Quake3 or etcs.
So I say that 'a little' NOT 'little'.

Grabber skill is interesting.
oh my god, If the skill is used the skill for "Erebus2", running is faster!

...Practice makes perfect.
I remember.  

[ffffffffffff]

@ YIFF
Are you still alive?

Yeah.. sorry people, I neglected the forums.. and my life for a while because of depression.. and played a ridiculous amount of Quake4 MP over the time (which is pretty good, and i'm better at strafejumping now). But i'm over it, and i should have some time to work on the runs before the school holidays end in Feb.

[tossedsalad]

But, the skill is weak than Quake3 or etcs.
So I say that 'a little' NOT 'little'.

Yeah, but its still very effective.



Yiff
You should take a look at sunpal's run, there is some stuff you could use.

[Kibbo]

You better use it anyway, because the "veteran runners" (fierus, me and tagh_azog) are basically competing in shaving  fractions of seconds from the levels. So the competition is stiff and ignoring even the smallest of tricks is fatal.

[ffffffffffff]

I overused my 10gb download limit this month (in the first day) so I can't really download Sunpal's run until next month.. (fkn going away for 2 weeks in January   ).

I can't see.. how long is his run anyway?

[tossedsalad]

He used a jumping trick in Erebus Control.
In your run, it is at 2:22 where you have to extend a brigde.
He jumped down to the lower area from the right (while you did it from the left). Im not sure if this is actually faster, but he didnt pause like you did. Also keep in mind that he was in berserk.

Not alot of tricks in the run, but he does smart things like using the grabber to his convenience. He grabs fireballs and throws them back, this is an insta-kill even on Nightmare and its less risky than shotgunning a vulgar at close range with a chance of missing. Of course, when you get your artifact activated you wont need this.

At some areas, he grabs a body and brings it with him before using the artifact. This is good in Nightmare where bodies are scarce and found in inconvenient places (like before multiple doors at the start of phobos1). This will cut out the time taken for doors to open in slow motion.

Also remember that in Nightmare, you get invulnerable from the start. So even in tiny areas teeming with monsters, you can kill them all using grenades at point blank range without needing to stop or aim at all.

Yiff, i think its best that you post your segmented runs as you progress so we can help you out.

Oh and according to sunpal, the time is 45:11.

[sunpal]

hi, yiff~

Is 1.37gb file big?
308Mb is being, too. This can but is lower quality than 1.37Gb file.
If you watch my movie, you download the lq file.

http://www.archive.org/download/d3roe_speedrun_for_korea/D3RoE_SpeedRun_Korean_45h10s816ms_Low.avi

Yeah!
Right, tossedsalad. Playing time is 45:11.
( Actually, 45:10.816.   But 10.816 almost same 11. )

the jumping trick...
I happened on the trick.  

The file is big. 'Cause frame of the file is not 30. 60 is.
If that is 30, size of the file is a CD(about 700Mb).

Nightmare is not bad skill.
Although the skill can use that is 3 effect of Artifact,
Nightmare's handicap is more than good thing of full powerful Artifact.

For example, shotgun guy's full power is 80 or more.
(almost dead)


Running is hard.  
and my english is so weak, too.
(My nation is Korea.)


now here is pm.5:54.

[sunpal]

I have a question.

I read the Rules. but curious thing is.

On recording,

30frame <= rules ok.
60frame <= NOT?

DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING. <= I see.

Why wasn't registed the movie of yiff yet?
What doesn't it match?
(His movie seems to be followed the Segment rules.)

I wanna know the rules, Perfectly.
and I am planning re-run.

(Is word(extent) right?)
I knew some extent about the rules.
(Thanx for answering about many question of me, yiff   )
But I don't know the rules perfectly.

[ffffffffffff]

I have a question.

I read the Rules. but curious thing is.

On recording,

30frame <= rules ok.
60frame <= NOT?

DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING. <= I see.

Do not modify the video to make it faster, for example..
But if you want to submit a run video to SDA, it must comply with the rules, and currently it is preferred to have videos at 30 fps instead of 60, to decrease file sizes. (And most computers can not record above 30 fps with Fraps

Why wasn't registed the movie of yiff yet?
What doesn't it match?
(His movie seems to be followed the Segment rules.)

I wanna know the rules, Perfectly.
and I am planning re-run.

(Is word(extent) right?)
I knew some extent about the rules.
(Thanx for answering about many question of me, yiff   )
But I don't know the rules perfectly.


 

Read these three:

Rules: http://speeddemosarchive.com/rules.html
Questions: http://speeddemosarchive.com/faq.html
Submission guidelines: http://speeddemosarchive.com/submit.html

Anything else you don't understand, just ask.

Will you be running Segmented or SS? Marine or Nightmare?

[sunpal]

Thanx again, yiff!!


By the way,
I did NOT modify my video to cheat.
I did nothing but record to 60frames on setting of 'fraps'.

Mostly, Files are frame of 30. I knew it!
But my CPU don't wanna be keep idle.

What's my story?

I don't have a single core. ..Dual core!
I'm using a dual core that is Toledo(4400+).
(I'm sad T_T. Mass production of 939 socket is stopped, nearly!! )
In fact, a performance of Conroe is great.
But Toledo is good performance, too.  

Anyway,
I don't like a recording on 30fps.
So I like 60.
I don't have thinking of any intention to cheat!!
I do nothing but like 60fps  .

Accordingly, my movie was recorded on
60 frame setting of fraps.


I still am checking almost rules. (oh my   headache!)
But thinking about frame rate isn't solved.

now my remembering list is..

- Don't touch anything (setting of game)
  ex> a visual point? sound pack? nonononono
       (pm_thirdperson ?? (x) alphasoundpack? (x) )
- Don't cheat! (Even a mere child knows it in here!)
- Patch is OK (now D3 ver. is 1.3)
- Start to record at Menu.
(extract the doom3.exe -> new game click ->
 level click -> on playing)
- End to scene of credits.
 (ending scene ~~~~~~ until credits)
- Don't use Emulator.
 (by the way, This is not a game of
  Console(XB, PS or etc).)
- dead = run is failed (for SS rules)
 (1 mission 1m 1m 1m ... = S rules)
- Don't turbo! (=cheat. Single is not multi)


My dense head know those, only.
Teach me! I'm inquisitive about rules~.

...now here is pm 12:20.
I wrote long sentences, so hungry~~~~  

[ballofsnow]

and currently it is preferred to have videos at 30 fps instead of 60, to decrease file sizes. (And most computers can not record above 30 fps with Fraps

Wtf? How can framerate affect the file size? It can't. Only bitrate does.

It is definitely prefered to have videos at 60 fps! Just remember that LQ/MQ has to be 30 fps. This can easily be done through VirtualDub or AviSynth.

Sunpal, I loved that you recorded at 60 fps. Please do so again!

[sunpal]

Sunpal, I loved that you recorded at 60 fps. Please do so again!

Thanx.
But my dream is that new record of mine is renewaled to SDA.
So I said the question(see the below!).

It seems to me that the rules prohibit 60 fps.
30 is ok. But 60 isn't.

I am planning re-run. Practising, too.

I want to prove that we(Koreans) have known not only RPG but also FPS!.
(personally, i hate some RPG game. especially, Lineage(1,2 all)! Many Koreans don't give up playing the game.(reason of that is very HUMILIATING.) but, surely, Diablo is very good. )


Problem is what...
my skill is not good.  

[Kibbo]

You don't break any rule by recording at 60 fps, you can set Fraps to record at 99 if you want. It's just that the final videos must have a frame rate of 30 fps for low/medium/high quality, and 60 fps for insane quality. It's ok to use 60 fps for medium quality x264 videos as well, if it's a low-detailed game.

[sunpal]

It's just that the final videos must have a frame rate of 30 fps for low/medium/high quality, and 60 fps for insane quality.

I didn't understand that part of your comment.

To be accurate , I see that 60 is ok.
But I don't understand about the final videos.

So,

- sequence -
1. record for 60fps
2. encoding to 30fps ? <= meaning of your comment?
if O : What do I do if I encode? (method is..?)
or X : What do you mean?

@_@.. <= swinging of eyes  


I'm sorry about many question.  
So I'm practising and practising.