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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2007, 10:09:01 » |
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too bad the magic multiply glitch doesnt work with nirnroot, you could do that quest within 5 mins then 
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2007, 11:25:43 » |
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Personally, I'd rather see a really good speedrun than 100%, which would be boring to watch (nirnroots). Morbo both agree and disagrees. A combination of the above would and could become awesome.
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2007, 16:35:51 » |
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EU PSN ID (Main): NK3233 JPN PSN ID: Kodashi54
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2007, 00:44:00 » |
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If this hasn't been claimed by next year, I think I'll give it a shot. It might be something like 300+ segments, but should be fun. 
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2007, 08:36:04 » |
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I've done 100% of everything there is to do in Oblivion and I must say that the amount you are willing to pay for the run is nowhere near enough to even think about recording a 100% run. It would be fun to record it to watch when you feel like wasting like 300 hours of you life (which translates to roughly 12 days of playing time straight...no potty or food breaks for you...).
The real question with recording this run is how much money will you wind up spending on storage space? If you think about it, all those sites online won't store files that big...especially High quality ones. So what...like 300 DVD's will do the trick? That's how much money?
I mean, seriously...there's a point past which this stuff stops being practical and gets into the downright inane.
Unless you seriously think about shelling out the big bucks on this one, no one in their right mind is going to do this. Or someone without a life will...hell, get one of those WoW geeks to do it, they have plenty of time... (As much as I love this game, I just HAD to make this post...this is effing ridiculous...)
Also...just for those actually considering running the game, how about the use of the Oblivion BT mod 2.0 as well as the Better water, etc. mods that make the game look better/make the menu's easier to work. Also, what about Franscesco's Leveled Creature's/Item's mod, which makes the game somewhat more difficult by varying items, making Daedric/glass armor more scarce, making skill increases slower, and making enchanted armor "rare", so to speak. Would these be ok to use?
Also, for anyone doing the 100% run, they should do the Knights of the nine first...the crusader's boots grant a skill called woodland grace, making any wild creature (bears, wolves, etc.) NOT attack you. This is great for when you have to run through the forest to get to a cave and want to avoid combat...I used it lots. (NOTE: This makes doing the thieves guild and Dark Brotherhood better when you do them because you will wind up doing these LAST in order to preserve boot usage for the longest amount of time. When doing these two guilds last, the items are MUCH better. Also, doing Mehrunes Razor last is better. The Morag Tong armor and Blade Turn hood that can be obtained here will be best at around level 30 or so, granting HIGH enchantment bonuses).
Anyone interested in what Items would be needed to create a kick-ass blade-thief can message me, I have TONS of time in one and know the best items to get and when to get them (at level 45, my character was immune to damage and could deal 45 physical dmg per hit, not including effects damage).
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« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2007, 13:06:06 » |
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The real question with recording this run is how much money will you wind up spending on storage space? If you think about it, all those sites online won't store files that big...especially High quality ones. So what...like 300 DVD's will do the trick? That's how much money?
Couldnt be further from the truth here, but thanks for the tips and offer to help! I am using 640x480 good quality xvid video, non compressed audio. At the moment, I have completed all stages of nirnroot, fenced over 1000 gold, become arena grand champion, listener of dark brotherhood, and am almost done with mages (necromancer moon quest), oh and I also did pale pass/forgotten chests/ring of omnipotence since lifting the veil was triggered while I was doing dark brotherhood in bruma. All told its 4 hours and 42 minutes of film, and 6.36 gigabytes. Even right now, its only 1 and a half dvds of data, and I can still compress the video further and change the sample rate of the audio. I think fileplanet has unlimited space you can upload to, with a 1 gigabyte per file rule. No problems there. I figure not a lot of people have seen how to get the ring of omnipotence or whatever in pale pass, so I'll give everyone interested a taste of whats been done so far. I'll update when I got it on fileplanet. Here it is, and its not filleplanet, its filefront, my mistake- http://files.filefront.com/pale+passavi/;8506006;/fileinfo.html
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2007, 05:34:26 » |
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so if we do the math here...with 4 hours and 42 minutes worth of stuff at 6.36 gigs of info...
I'll go ahead and round the numbers to a nice round 5 hours for the time you've played, 300 hours of total game-play, and 6.5 gigabytes of total information collected so far. The way this will break down is as follows...300 hours divided by five gives us 60 segments, each of 6.5 gigabytes each. This whole thing multiplies out to be 390 gigabytes total. That's still about roughly 100 DVD's. That's plenty of money...and this estimate is just kinda iffy either way. For the hard run, it would definitely be much more (more time equals more data, etc.). Bottom line is that it will still be insane...
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2007, 07:27:24 » |
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I'm doing this hardest difficulty. It will be 30 hours max. I will probably do it closer to 15. Where are you getting 300 hours from? You could do this blind, ie no planning or experience, under 100 hours...
How bout you do the math this way: at five and one half hours, Ive completed nirnroots, arena, dark brotherhood, mages, and pale pass. Thats 1/4 to 1/3 done. I'll be generous and give 2 hours for fighters, 2 for thieves, 2 for main, 2 for miscellaneous, and another 2 for daedra. If it wasnt for the level requirement for daedra quests, it could be done even faster.
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2007, 23:12:53 » |
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I'm doing this hardest difficulty. It will be 30 hours max. I will probably do it closer to 15. Where are you getting 300 hours from? You could do this blind, ie no planning or experience, under 100 hours...
How bout you do the math this way: at five and one half hours, Ive completed nirnroots, arena, dark brotherhood, mages, and pale pass. Thats 1/4 to 1/3 done. I'll be generous and give 2 hours for fighters, 2 for thieves, 2 for main, 2 for miscellaneous, and another 2 for daedra. If it wasnt for the level requirement for daedra quests, it could be done even faster. Well noticed that we havent even started planning the quests yet  by that I mean take this quest, go there, finish that one, then this one next to this and so on and so forth. I am reckoning that Oblivion 100% can be done in 10 hours if it has suitable planning and hard work
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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2007, 23:13:40 » |
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so if we do the math here...with 4 hours and 42 minutes worth of stuff at 6.36 gigs of info...
I'll go ahead and round the numbers to a nice round 5 hours for the time you've played, 300 hours of total game-play, and 6.5 gigabytes of total information collected so far. The way this will break down is as follows...300 hours divided by five gives us 60 segments, each of 6.5 gigabytes each. This whole thing multiplies out to be 390 gigabytes total. That's still about roughly 100 DVD's. That's plenty of money...and this estimate is just kinda iffy either way. For the hard run, it would definitely be much more (more time equals more data, etc.). Bottom line is that it will still be insane... Now you say 300 hours. Try asking Dex how long he used on doing hos Deus Ex run. Or try asking the QDQ runners how long they spend on running q1e1 only.
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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2007, 01:11:14 » |
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Now you say 300 hours. Try asking Dex how long he used on doing hos Deus Ex run. Or try asking the QDQ runners how long they spend on running q1e1 only.
Yes, making a perfect run definitely takes a lot of dedication and many many hours of trial and error. Elaqure honestly thinks that this Oblivion run would be 300 HOURS LONG, never mind how long itd take to make it in real time. Thats why he keeps going on about it taking up hundreds of dvds, even though I explained that theres this thing called compression. And by the way, you can get that many dvds for 20-30 American dollars  And seriously, even if you just played the game for the first time, and didnt plan or restart at all, it wouldnt take THAT long to do. For me, this is my first time even attempting something like this. My hope is that I put something out there that is fast, but by no means perfect. Something to work with and that will be improved upon by me (in the VERY distant future) or someone else. To my knowledge, it hasnt been done before, so I just want to get it done with a reasonable degree of quality. Oh, and 500 dollars is nice too 
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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2007, 02:33:54 » |
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Yes, making a perfect run definitely takes a lot of dedication and many many hours of trial and error. Elaqure honestly thinks that this Oblivion run would be 300 HOURS LONG, never mind how long itd take to make it in real time. Thats why he keeps going on about it taking up hundreds of dvds, even though I explained that theres this thing called compression. And by the way, you can get that many dvds for 20-30 American dollars  And seriously, even if you just played the game for the first time, and didnt plan or restart at all, it wouldnt take THAT long to do. For me, this is my first time even attempting something like this. My hope is that I put something out there that is fast, but by no means perfect. Something to work with and that will be improved upon by me (in the VERY distant future) or someone else. To my knowledge, it hasnt been done before, so I just want to get it done with a reasonable degree of quality. Oh, and 500 dollars is nice too  Maybe his definition of 100% includes all the master trainers. That'd take a while right?
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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2007, 02:55:45 » |
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Maybe his definition of 100% includes all the master trainers. That'd take a while right?
Even then, nowhere near that long. This still would have speed in mind. Also, common sense.
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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2007, 04:18:51 » |
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Dear God, I leave for three days and this shit happens.
Honestly, if you plan your route well this thing can be done in no time. It will probably be too long for SDA, but probably less than 20 hours. It gets to a point where you are strong enough to beat anything in the game so just going for it is no big deal after a time (unless you run it on Very Hard).
You're right, no one in their right mind would do this, except for the two people not only portraying interest in running this, but actually practicing.
Aww, I guess my $300 dollars plus I am putting up for this run isn't enough, except for the fact that it is the most money being offered for any run on the bounty board. And that doesn't even count the bonus money for harder difficulty runs and Shivering Isles/Knights of the Nine.
Geez, I must have been insane to do this. Except that if you look at all the bounties, this one is one of the very, very few actually being attempted. All the others died or lost interest. Basically I am paying someone to do what they already probably have: done everything in Oblivion. Just they hit record this time.
Oh, and as for the Master Trainers, I will throw those in too. I totally forgot about them, thanks for reminding me. Shouldn't be much trouble, I mean you can get training from them for doing the most menial tasks.
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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2007, 08:07:00 » |
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Yes, making a perfect run definitely takes a lot of dedication and many many hours of trial and error. Elaqure honestly thinks that this Oblivion run would be 300 HOURS LONG, never mind how long itd take to make it in real time. Thats why he keeps going on about it taking up hundreds of dvds, even though I explained that theres this thing called compression. And by the way, you can get that many dvds for 20-30 American dollars  And seriously, even if you just played the game for the first time, and didnt plan or restart at all, it wouldnt take THAT long to do. For me, this is my first time even attempting something like this. My hope is that I put something out there that is fast, but by no means perfect. Something to work with and that will be improved upon by me (in the VERY distant future) or someone else. To my knowledge, it hasnt been done before, so I just want to get it done with a reasonable degree of quality. Oh, and 500 dollars is nice too  The way I see it, this is something that requires the same planning as doing a 100% GTA SA. If you look at it, the games are quite alike in a similar way. Also the fact that you can carry around multiple quests at the same time allows for some serious planning.
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