NPY was a time saver. If you checked and saw someone had done, lets say, e1m1 EH in 51 seconds, then you wont go spending your precious time trying to beat the current 54..

I haven't dont THAT many demos, so I cant complain, but do u notice there is always "and <insert nick here> sent demos too but too late/too slow" .. That sux. Like some crappy tod demos I made after the Quad was found (both :31), I didn't spend that much, maybe 2 hours combined, but I remember I tried hard those 2 hours and my fingers were hurting.. then I leave a MSG to Stubby, asking if someone submitted anything faster before my demos.. and the answer was? Guess.. :(

Do you have any idea of how many times I could have jerked off in 2 (two!!) hours? Gosh.. instead of USELESS playing. :(

And don't give me something like "well, ask him before playing on ICQ".. coz he aint always there, and that'd probably disturb him more.. :/

Oh, and also don't give me that crap I write too much, if you've read so far and you don't like my writings.. then you're plain dumb, so don't complain.

i) NPY would maybe useful for the first week after new maps but does require an ftp site on someone's PC and a work overhead for someone (Stubby or Myself) to keep it up to date. Besides, we have made a Herculean effort to post these demos as quickly as we can. (Update Tuesday, new maps Wednesday, updates Thursday, Friday, Monday and one coming today). No one is going to stop anyone mentioning their times on the message board but just try to imagine the bitching and whining that would cause because not everyone would want to do so for any number of very good reasons.

ii) And as for wasting time, consider this. (All names, maps and times are fictional)...

Arnold Garlic-Lassoo does the NH of the new map "wnk3r" in 16:36 after 20 minutes trying. And decides to send it in. But then sees that Jim Doohickey has done a 16:35 and so he tries for the next 2 hours and finally gets a 16:34. His arms are too tired to pull it off so instead he sticks it in the cat to celebrate before sending his demo in. When he's finished (two minutes later) he notices that Neil Plug has just done a 3:24. DOH!
So instead of wasting 20 mins he's wasted 2hrs 20 mins and he'll still only get an "honourable mention".
IT COULD HAPPEN!!

iii) "and bugging Nolan a lot on ICQ". That worked, didn't it.

iv) I got so carried away writing that bit
above that I can't remember what my point was.

There most likely won't be another NPY again, due to the reasons Richard mentioned above, and also due to that I think the whole idea sucked from the start anyway. We're working hard on our updates, and it's a complete waste of time to do the lengthy updates we (mostly Richard) do if the demos already has been made available. Part of the whole fun in an update is the surprise and anticipation of new demos, at least I had that opinion too when I wasn't an updater at SDA myself. There's nothing better than a massive update with loads of new demos you haven't seen.

I hope the majority of speedrunners understand our point of view, and those who don't can fuck off :-)
(don't take it litterally)

- The axe swinging master -

When we're not talking about new maps the very opposite can be true...

About a year ago I came up with a new trick which made the NH (and EH) of mexx8b much faster. I was damn proud of that trick and thought it was probably the best demo I had made at that point.

Within a few hours Optic had beaten my record. Twice. So that by the time the next update was posted mine was just a footnote and I doubt anyone in the whole world actually watched it. Whereas if there was no NPY my record would have stood for a week or so before it was destroyed and maybe a few people would have downloaded it and thought "yeah, that's a pretty cool idea".

When the updates were infrequent NPY was a useful thing.

But stop repeating "we're working hard on making frequent updates" coz I never said/meant that you guys weren't!!

But I just making a point, which I do have.. even if NPY sucks or would take the surprise away, it still has a point..

You used an example, here is another, names here ARE real, don't think any1 minds.

Remember Jozsef's phallusy in 0:28 NR? I remember "Spent 11 straight hours" .. Could you imagine if 1-2 days before that, someone (Peter, Ilkka, whoever) had done a 0:25 and it was on SDA's mailbox and everything? Wouldn't that be frustrating for Joz, in that case?

But oh well, My intention was not to bitch and whine from the beggining.. just saying I liked NPY.. but yeah, without it it's much more surprising, and cool.. I loved to read those updates with the Markus demos a few weeks back. :P Seeing them on NPY wouldn't have been as cool.

But basicly NPY spoils the whole fun about an update, but it's very useful if updates aren't frequent, which they ARE now :-)

So let's leave it at that shall we! NPY isn't making a return! That's it and that's that....

And to answer your question about me: People have to read between the lines.... :-)