Double Dragon II was released in 1990 for the NES. The Double Dragons, Billy and Jimmy Lee, are back to avenge the loss of Marion. The twins fight the ultimate battle between good and evil. A battle where not only their lives are at stake, but the fate of the entire world!
Category Note: Supreme Master is the only difficulty allowed, as it is the only difficulty that plays through every stage.
Note: The two-player run is slower than the one-player run because there are more enemies and lag in two-player mode.
Best time with deaths: 0:11:22 by 'sinister1' on 2009-06-22.
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Run History:
This run is the product of what I first thought was a cruel twist of fate. After my 12:01 deaths run was approved I wanted to make a no deaths run and was planning to submit once I got around 12:15 or less. The idea was to have both deathless and deaths runs up simultaneously. My first good no deaths time was 12:01 which just so happens to be EXACTLY the same time as my previous deaths run. This presented a problem because Mike Uyama informed me that the deaths run will be obsoleted.
At first I was annoyed at how I could randomly get the exact same freakin time (which has never even happened until now). I mean how could it not have been a few seconds faster for sub 12:00 or a few seconds slower to be a nice complement to my 12:01? After my initial annoyance and disgust subsided, it hit me. I realized the beautiful truth...this was a sign that my work on this game was not done. Sub 12:00 had to be achieved and I knew I could do it. I actually developed a few new strategies for this run some of which you will get to see. Others will just be described in the comments since I did not execute them correctly.
A few notes on the shadow boss. In order to get the good pattern you have to wait a second on the last cutscene before starting the fight (I actually figured out which note of the music to press the button on). If you do this he will NOT flip away from your 1st knee. Once you get him cornered you have to do a variation to keep him trapped. During the first half you take a ? step away before jumping and kneeing again once he is in the corner. In the 2nd half of the fight you just face away and jump/knee. If you do not do this he will hit you. It took me a long time to figure out the "randomness" of this guy, but I now know pretty much everything there is to know about the goon and how he reacts.
I am pretty pleased with this run and all told I managed to save 39 seconds. Most of my mistakes were not too costly and I did execute pretty well in some spots. The best part for me about this run time is that I actually completed the entire game faster than the original 1 player TAS done by Fobbi on Intermediate difficulty in 11:22 (timing ends with final hit). I think 11:0x is definitely possible but I am not going to be running this game anytime soon. If someone comes along and beats my time I will return and go for sub 11:00 which is the Holy Grail for this game but requires the mission 6 glitch to be performed or near perfect execution in all 9 missions.
Here are my old times/new times (best times)
Mission 1: 1:35 / 1:23 (1:19)
Mission 2: 1:21 / 1:15 (1:14)
Mission 3: 0:29 / 0:29 (0:24)
Mission 4: 1:34 / 1:31 (1:28)
Mission 5: 2:01 / 1:48 (1:36)
Mission 6: 0:56 / 1:01 (0:45 using the glitch, 0:50 without)
Mission 7: 1:53 / 1:58 (1:47)
Mission 8: 1:34 / 1:25 (1:18)
Mission 9: 0:38 / 0:31 (0:31)
Total time: 12:01 / 11:22 (10:24)
Best 2-player time with deaths: 0:12:13 by 'sinister1' and Joe Corbin on 2009-06-22.
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tl;dr cliff notes: My best friend came (playing Jimmy Lee) to visit me (playing Billy Lee) from halfway across the country and we did a speedrun together in a very limited amount of time. The game is really difficult in 2 player mode due to lag, additional randomness, 29 extra enemies and increased chance for runner error. There are advantages to 2 player mode that make up for the increased difficulty somewhat. Skip down to Mission descriptions or read on if you want more details.
Sometimes 2 players are better than 1. This is, and is not one of those times; a paradox if you will. In terms of entertainment value this certainly exceeds what 1 player runs can deliver. In terms of speed, not quite, but it's still pretty darn fast. At first I thought this run was just a dream because the chances of being able to get two people with enough skill together for a long enough time all while having enough luck just could not happen. But...jprophet22, the guy who did the 1 player TAS of this game in 9:38 happens to be my best friend. It also happens that he has skills beyond the frame-by-frame world of TAS. He came to visit me recently and we had a very short time to conceive a close to optimal strategy, practice it, and execute it. We got a lot of useful strats from adelikat's 2 player TAS, and ended up deciding that B mode was better than A mode after testing both. I played the role of Billy Lee (blue) since I had extensive practice and would be carrying more of the work load. Jprophet played Jimmy Lee (red) and took about 5 minutes of practice before he was doing continuous knees despite having not played the game on console since the early '90s.
Here is a list of differences between a 1 player (1p) and 2 player (2p) run of this game:
Advantages:
Disadvantages:
On to the run itself:
We use a modified version of the TAS strategy here effectively until I get a little too excited and jump early allowing the Shadow Warrior out of the trap. I have to admit we got super lucky to finish him off so quickly once he got out. What a great way to finish the run.
I must say I am surprised that we were able to achieve a run of this quality in such a short time. I am certain sub 12:00 would be achieved had we had more time to work on this as we must have had less than 100 resets. We will certainly improve this run next time jprophet22 comes to town but that might be a while, so until then enjoy this 2 player run.
Here are the mission times with our best times in parentheses:
Mission 1: 1:23 (1:17)
Mission 2: 1:12 (1:11)
Mission 3: 0:31 (0:29)
Mission 4: 1:49 (1:30)
Mission 5: 1:46 (1:45)
Mission 6: 0:53 (0:51)
Mission 7: 2:09 (2:09)
Mission 8: 1:57 (1:46)
Mission 9: 0:32 (0:32)
Total time: 12:13 (11:28)